Lesson 220 min

Advanced Dupont: The 5-Step Model

Go deeper by isolating the impact of taxes and interest payments on ROE, spotting financial engineering, and identifying truly sustainable returns.

Learning Objectives

  • Learn the limitations of the 3-Step model
  • Understand the 5 components of the advanced model
  • Calculate each component from real financial statements
  • Identify if ROE changes are driven by operations or financial engineering
  • Spot red flags that indicate unsustainable ROE

Advanced Dupont: The 5-Step Model#

A company's ROE jumped from 12% to 18% this year. Great news, right? Not so fast. Using the 3-Step model, you might think the business improved. But the 5-Step model reveals the truth: operating margins actually declined while a one-time tax break and increased borrowing artificially inflated returns. The "improvement" is a mirage.

The 5-Step Advantage: While the 3-Step model tells you what drives ROE, the 5-Step model tells you why—separating genuine operational improvements from financial engineering and tax effects.

Why the 3-Step Model Falls Short#

The 3-Step model combines everything into "Net Profit Margin":

Net Margin = Net Income / Revenue

But Net Income is affected by:

  • Operating performance (core business)
  • Interest expenses (debt decisions)
  • Tax rates (often outside management control)

If net margin drops from 15% to 12%, the 3-Step model can't tell you whether:

  1. The core business is struggling (bad)
  2. Interest costs increased from new debt (concerning)
  3. Tax rates went up (often temporary)

The 5-Step model separates these effects.

The 5-Step Dupont Formula#

ROE = Tax Burden × Interest Burden × Operating Margin × Asset Turnover × Financial Leverage

Expanded: ROE = (NI/EBT) × (EBT/EBIT) × (EBIT/Revenue) × (Revenue/Assets) × (Assets/Equity)

Let's understand each component:

Component 1: Tax Burden (Tax Retention Rate)#

Formula: Net Income / Pre-Tax Income (EBT)

What it measures: What percentage of pre-tax profits the company keeps after taxes.

Interpretation:

  • Value of 0.75 = Company keeps 75% of pre-tax profits (25% tax rate)
  • Value of 0.65 = Company keeps 65% of pre-tax profits (35% tax rate)
  • Higher is better (less tax paid)
Tax BurdenEffective Tax RateInterpretation
0.85+<15%Very low (tax havens, credits, losses)
0.75-0.8515-25%Low-moderate (efficient tax planning)
0.65-0.7525-35%Normal for most companies
<0.65>35%High (limited deductions, foreign taxes)

Real Example—Microsoft (2024):

  • Pre-Tax Income: $88.5 billion
  • Net Income: $72.4 billion
  • Tax Burden: $72.4B / $88.5B = 0.82 (18% effective tax rate)

Microsoft's global tax planning keeps their effective rate low. This is sustainable—they're not relying on one-time tax breaks.

Component 2: Interest Burden (Interest Retention Rate)#

Formula: Pre-Tax Income (EBT) / Operating Income (EBIT)

What it measures: What percentage of operating profits remains after paying interest on debt.

Interpretation:

  • Value of 1.0 = No debt interest (all operating profit flows through)
  • Value of 0.8 = 20% of operating profit goes to interest payments
  • Value of 0.5 = Half of operating profit consumed by interest (danger!)
Interest BurdenInterpretationConcern Level
0.95-1.0Minimal debt impact🟢 Very safe
0.85-0.95Low debt burden🟢 Safe
0.70-0.85Moderate debt burden🟡 Monitor
0.50-0.70High debt burden🔴 Concerning
<0.50Severe debt burden🔴 Danger

Real Example—AT&T (2024):

  • Operating Income (EBIT): $24.5 billion
  • Interest Expense: $6.8 billion
  • Pre-Tax Income: $17.7 billion
  • Interest Burden: $17.7B / $24.5B = 0.72

AT&T pays nearly 28% of its operating profits to bondholders. This limits how much earnings can flow to shareholders and reduces financial flexibility.

Interest Burden Warning Signs

If Interest Burden falls below 0.70, the company is paying significant profits to creditors. If it falls below 0.50, the company may struggle to meet debt obligations during downturns. This is a bankruptcy warning signal.

Component 3: Operating Margin (EBIT Margin)#

Formula: EBIT / Revenue

What it measures: The pure profitability of core business operations, before considering how the business is financed or taxed.

This is the most important component. Operating margin reflects:

  • Pricing power
  • Cost efficiency
  • Competitive position
  • Core business health

Changes in operating margin indicate real business improvements or deterioration.

Operating MarginInterpretationTypical Industries
30%+ExceptionalSoftware, luxury, pharma
20-30%StrongTech hardware, branded goods
10-20%GoodManufacturing, services
5-10%AverageRetail, food, industrials
<5%LowGrocery, discount retail, airlines

Real Example—Nvidia (2024):

  • Revenue: $60.9 billion
  • Operating Income: $32.9 billion
  • Operating Margin: $32.9B / $60.9B = 54%

Nvidia's operating margin is extraordinary—reflecting the AI chip boom and limited competition. This is the gold standard for operational excellence.

Components 4 & 5: Asset Turnover & Leverage#

These remain identical to the 3-Step model:

  • Asset Turnover = Revenue / Total Assets
  • Financial Leverage = Total Assets / Shareholders' Equity

Complete 5-Step Calculation: Microsoft#

Let's work through Microsoft's full 5-Step Dupont analysis:

Financial Data (FY 2024):

Line ItemValue
Revenue$245.1B
Operating Income (EBIT)$109.4B
Interest Expense$1.9B
Pre-Tax Income (EBT)$88.5B
Net Income$72.4B
Total Assets$512B
Shareholders' Equity$268B

5-Step Calculation:

ComponentFormulaCalculationValue
Tax BurdenNI / EBT$72.4B / $88.5B0.82
Interest BurdenEBT / EBIT$88.5B / $109.4B0.81
Operating MarginEBIT / Revenue$109.4B / $245.1B44.6%
Asset TurnoverRevenue / Assets$245.1B / $512B0.48x
LeverageAssets / Equity$512B / $268B1.91x

ROE Calculation:

ROE = 0.82 × 0.81 × 0.446 × 0.48 × 1.91
ROE = 27.2%

Interpretation:

  • Tax Burden (0.82): Efficient tax management, keeps 82% of pre-tax profits
  • Interest Burden (0.81): Some debt impact, but manageable
  • Operating Margin (44.6%): Exceptional—cloud and software business very profitable
  • Asset Turnover (0.48x): Low, but normal for tech companies with large intangible assets
  • Leverage (1.91x): Conservative for a company of this size

Microsoft's ROE is driven by genuine operational excellence (44.6% operating margin), not financial engineering.

Case Study: Spotting Financial Engineering#

Company A: Genuine Improvement#

MetricYear 1Year 2Change
Tax Burden0.750.75
Interest Burden0.900.90
Operating Margin12%16%+4%
Asset Turnover1.2x1.2x
Leverage2.0x2.0x
ROE19.4%25.9%+6.5%

Analysis: ROE increased entirely due to operating margin improvement. The core business got better—this is sustainable, high-quality growth. Verdict: Buy signal.

Company B: Financial Engineering#

MetricYear 1Year 2Change
Tax Burden0.700.90+0.20
Interest Burden0.950.75-0.20
Operating Margin15%12%-3%
Asset Turnover1.0x1.0x
Leverage2.0x3.0x+1.0x
ROE20.0%24.3%+4.3%

Analysis:

  • ROE increased, which looks good on the surface
  • But operating margin decreased (core business weakened)
  • Tax burden improved dramatically (one-time tax benefit?)
  • Interest burden decreased (debt costs rising)
  • Leverage increased significantly (more borrowing)

This company is masking operational decline with tax tricks and debt. Verdict: Major red flag—avoid or sell.

The Financial Engineering Playbook

Companies can temporarily inflate ROE by:

  1. Taking one-time tax benefits (tax burden jumps)
  2. Borrowing more money (leverage increases)
  3. Cutting R&D or maintenance (margins temporarily rise but future suffers)

The 5-Step model exposes these tactics by separating operational performance from financial manipulation.

Trend Analysis Framework#

Track each component over 5 years to understand the trajectory:

Healthy Company Pattern#

ComponentTrendInterpretation
Tax BurdenStable (0.75-0.80)Consistent tax planning
Interest BurdenStable or risingManaging debt responsibly
Operating MarginStable or risingCore business strong
Asset TurnoverStableConsistent efficiency
LeverageStable or decliningNot relying on debt

Warning Sign Pattern#

ComponentTrendConcern
Tax BurdenSpiking upwardLikely one-time benefits
Interest BurdenDecliningDebt burden growing
Operating MarginDecliningCore business weakening
Asset TurnoverDecliningAssets not productive
LeverageIncreasingBorrowing to mask problems

Industry-Specific Considerations#

Different industries have different "normal" ranges:

Technology Companies#

ComponentTypical RangeNotes
Tax Burden0.80-0.85Aggressive tax planning common
Interest Burden0.90-1.0Usually minimal debt
Operating Margin20-40%High if scaled, low if investing
Asset Turnover0.4-0.8xIntangibles drag this down
Leverage1.2-2.0xGenerally conservative

Banks#

ComponentTypical RangeNotes
Tax Burden0.75-0.80Normal corporate rates
Interest BurdenN/AInterest is their business
Net Interest Margin2-4%Replaces operating margin
Asset Turnover0.03-0.06xVery low by design
Leverage8-12xHigh but regulated

Retailers#

ComponentTypical RangeNotes
Tax Burden0.70-0.75Standard rates
Interest Burden0.80-0.95Varies by debt level
Operating Margin3-8%Thin margins normal
Asset Turnover2.0-3.5xHigh is critical
Leverage2.0-4.0xModerate to high

Using 5-Step Dupont for Investment Decisions#

The Decision Matrix#

Operating Margin TrendLeverage TrendAction
ImprovingStable or decreasingStrong Buy
StableStableHold
StableIncreasingCaution—investigate
DecliningStableConcern—monitor closely
DecliningIncreasingSell

Key Questions to Ask#

  1. Is operating margin sustainable?

    • Compare to competitors
    • Check for one-time items in EBIT
    • Review R&D and marketing spending trends
  2. Is the tax burden realistic?

    • Compare to statutory rate
    • Check for loss carryforwards or credits
    • Will it normalize in future years?
  3. Is the interest burden stable?

    • Check debt maturity schedule
    • Will rates reset higher?
    • Interest coverage ratio above 4x?
  4. Is leverage appropriate for the industry?

    • Compare to peers
    • Check debt covenants
    • Assess ability to pay down debt

Common Analytical Mistakes#

MistakeProblemSolution
Ignoring interest incomeBanks earn interest, not just pay itUse net interest for financial firms
Using one year's dataTax benefits and one-time items distortUse 3-year averages
Not adjusting for non-recurring itemsSpecial charges affect EBITNormalize for one-time costs
Comparing across industriesBanks vs. tech is meaninglessOnly compare within sectors
Ignoring operating leasesSome debt is off-balance sheetCapitalize leases in leverage

The Professional Analyst's Approach

Wall Street analysts typically:

  1. Calculate 5-Step Dupont for the past 5 years
  2. Forecast each component separately
  3. Build the ROE forecast from the components
  4. Flag any component trending unfavorably
  5. Weight operating margin trends most heavily

This approach catches deteriorating businesses before headline ROE reflects the problems.

Key Takeaways

  • The 5-Step formula: ROE = Tax Burden × Interest Burden × Operating Margin × Asset Turnover × Leverage
  • Tax Burden (NI/EBT): Shows how much profit survives taxation. Values above 0.80 indicate efficient tax management.
  • Interest Burden (EBT/EBIT): Reveals debt's bite. Below 0.70 is concerning; below 0.50 is dangerous.
  • Operating Margin (EBIT/Revenue): The most important component—shows core business health independent of financing decisions.
  • Red flag pattern: Rising ROE + declining operating margin + increasing leverage = financial engineering, not real improvement.
  • Quality pattern: Rising ROE + rising operating margin + stable/declining leverage = genuine business improvement.
  • Microsoft example: 27% ROE driven by 45% operating margin—high quality. AT&T example: 28% of operating profits go to interest—concerning debt burden.
  • Always track 5-year trends, not just single-year snapshots.
  • Different industries have different normal ranges—compare within sectors only.